Cartoon Draft Madness! All Four Back in the Booth

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to the Yapov podcast episode. I believe this is episode 10. All four of us back in the saddle. Back here for another draft. As always, I'm Ted, here with Sam, Joe, and John. Fellas, it's been a while. It's difficult to get us all in the same proverbial room. [00:00:20] Speaker B: It's. It's tough. But I always look forward to it. I always mark it on my calendar, say this day, best day of the week. [00:00:29] Speaker A: I mark this calendar and say, beats working. [00:00:35] Speaker C: I'm very excited about it. It's. It's a living. Right. And all the ad revenue that comes. [00:00:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:00:41] Speaker C: I'm glad that Joe Brown could take time from doing his bits at his Pokemon. [00:00:46] Speaker A: I just want to say, Joe, I don't know. [00:00:49] Speaker C: So loud at that. Is that Joe Brown in the middle of the. Hi, guys, I am here. And. Oh, my God, is that Jack Smith, three time champion and blah, blah, bl. Oh, and here's Jane Doe and seven time champion, blah, blah, blah, blah. [00:01:02] Speaker A: Why. Why aren't you. Why aren't you in? Why are you here? Sam, I. I know you're not on Twitter. Okay. [00:01:13] Speaker B: You saw it, Sam. [00:01:15] Speaker D: I saw them. [00:01:16] Speaker A: Oh. [00:01:18] Speaker D: North American Pokemon Championship thing. [00:01:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:21] Speaker D: Yes, I saw them and I was like, wow, that's. That's Joe Brown from the podcast I'm on. [00:01:26] Speaker A: I was stunned they let you do that bit. [00:01:30] Speaker B: I was too. [00:01:32] Speaker A: Oh, I. I watched it and I was like that. I was. I'd never been more proud of you. [00:01:40] Speaker B: Okay. So for those unfamiliar. I can't believe it was. It was. The clip was viral enough to meet to. To reach tidings social media. That's a. That's an accomplishment. So the whole bit was. It was the North American International Championships, and, And there were no local players. There's no North American players in top eight, which is for the first time ever, they've been holding these international championships since 2017, and the first time ever that a home region did not have a single representative in the top eight of a. Of a VGC international. And so I admit that it sounded way meaner in the proof, in the concept than what I intended. I thought it was just going to be a silly little bit. We just make a silly little joke that, you know, oh, there's no North Americans in the North American top eight, you know, international championship. And so when I pitched it to our producer, I was like, I know this sounds weird, but I really think this could work. And so credit to her. She was like, as long as the players are cool with you, you Know, taking a stab at it, like, then, then it's fine. And then we made this whole groove and we had everyone sit, like the whole. It was like the, the exact second row of the tournament was open. Like no one was there. So it's like, oh, we have a perfect camera shot and a perfect toss from the stage and a perfect time with all these top level players, as John Perez mentioned, that are available. And credit to my podcast, my other podcast that shall. Shall not be named but Sierra on Oko podcast. Our. [00:03:05] Speaker A: Our Pokemon 1 podcast. [00:03:08] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. That's one of the best in the bays. Exactly. So credit to her. I was just gonna make a joke that there were with them there, that there were no North Americans, but she, Sierra came up with the question, oh, what North American are you rooting for? And that was the one that got the biggest laugh. And that was when it really started. The ideas started to form together and the crowd really understood the bit. So I give her a lot of the credit. I give my producer credit for actually trusting me to make it work out. And a lot of people are like, oh, Joe bro's so savage. Joe bro hates America, blah, blah. And I was like, I was like, listen, man, it was just a silly, fun little bit. [00:03:46] Speaker A: I. [00:03:47] Speaker C: It was regional champ Justin Pang. [00:03:53] Speaker B: The best part, the Twitter clip cuts off the best part to me, if you watch the VOD of it is our mic is still live. If it to as it tosses back to the casters and you can hear me and the players all laughing on the transition. That's my favorite part of, of the video is that you could tell it was a bit still. We were, we were. [00:04:13] Speaker A: I. Yeah, because like, I think I texted you or something because, like, I was like, in my mind, I'm like, there's no way this doesn't happen if the players aren't in on it. Like, no way. It happens because, like, obviously everything's fake on the Internet. But like, I was just like, the players have to be in on this. [00:04:33] Speaker B: Yeah, they. They were. They were all four. I actually felt so, like the act of. You mentioned Justin Tang. He was the, the, you know, the next. The, the big hitter. I felt like he got, he got the biggest ooh out of it because he was like, you know, three time champion, as we said, and he played his, like, embarrassment so well that I actually texted him afterwards. I was like, I am so sorry. I thought it was going to be funny. Like, he looks so sad and so depressed that like, you know, and he was like, oh, dude, you Told me to be sad. I was just acting sad. I was like, like that is how into it that he was. I thought he was actually upset with me. [00:05:11] Speaker A: Now, I want to say this is old news. This happened three, four weeks ago, probably. [00:05:17] Speaker B: It was like, yeah, June, I don't know, 15th or something like that. [00:05:21] Speaker A: And so that's the past. Today's today. Mike Rizzo and Dave Martinez. I've been fired by the Nationals. Always love to date these podcasts. You know how I do and, and what bigger than the Nationals. Who I said when. First episode I think of this podcast was me complaining that the Nationals did not do enough this offseason when the. It looked like the Juan Soda trade was probably going to work out. And now here we are, two weeks away from a week away from the MLB draft and you're firing your gm. [00:05:57] Speaker B: Crazy. [00:06:00] Speaker C: I just want to know what their strategy was. Like, they, they, they formed all these assets and they've done nothing to build around them. [00:06:07] Speaker A: I mean, at all. I mean, we know the reason the people, the, the owners didn't want to spend money. [00:06:16] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:06:17] Speaker A: Is sort of what it usually comes down to. [00:06:19] Speaker B: Well, they'll spend it just over the course of eight years, elongated instead of, you know. [00:06:25] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. Like I said, like I said all those months ago that now was the time to start pushing in your chips. And as someone, I said, if you're willing to fire your GM in the middle of the season, that means you were like, you were. I was on the table that you were gonna fire him at the start of the season, so why not do it then? [00:06:52] Speaker B: I, unfortunately, I always have a soft spot for the Nationals in my heart, Ted. One, I have family in D.C. their fans, like, I'm happy. If the National's happy, they're happy. I'm happy. [00:07:03] Speaker A: Right. [00:07:03] Speaker B: But 2019 was like peak Joe and Ted, producer, editor, timeline, where we did every World Series game and you know, we had the, we had that whole seven game series and all the nonsense that happened. So I do feel nostalgic for the Nationals every time. They also saved us from that Astros. I don't know, the cheaters winning two World Series. [00:07:25] Speaker A: I don't know. You're always trying to censor me, so I don't know how much I like that you kept saying, Ted, you can't say that. [00:07:31] Speaker B: I'm just saying that was Peak Joe hours that, that world. See, that was the Shoto Shuffle, which, which I made the first video on begrudgingly. Force forced against my will. And then it Became a thing. I edited that compilation of every Soto shuffle ball walk from the playoffs that year. [00:07:52] Speaker D: They're really going bottom of the barrel, those playoffs, weren't they? [00:07:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:56] Speaker D: Oh. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:00] Speaker D: You're. [00:08:00] Speaker B: You're not far off. So that was something. [00:08:03] Speaker A: Now, John, did you listen to the podcast? You were not on. [00:08:10] Speaker C: Like 10 seconds. [00:08:12] Speaker A: Okay. [00:08:12] Speaker C: It was working. I respect getting the algorithm, but I missed it. I'm sorry. [00:08:18] Speaker A: Okay. Well. Because I read the results from the last draft of that episode and I don't think you're gonna be happy because I. [00:08:28] Speaker D: You're never gonna guess who won. [00:08:30] Speaker A: Yeah. I have once again come out on top. [00:08:35] Speaker C: Oh, my goodness. [00:08:36] Speaker A: Now, I, I. There was a whole thing about how we need ranked choice voting. And my take was I don't think there is a universe in which you, John, would let anyone who voted for you. Then you lose your vote and it goes to one of those two. Am I correct in my assumption? [00:08:58] Speaker C: I'll triple endorse with Joe. [00:09:00] Speaker A: And that's really. I'm kind of. I'm surprised. I thought you'd rather die on your ship than then bring. Bring your friend down. [00:09:14] Speaker D: Rank Ted. Movement is growing. We have the numbers. [00:09:17] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. [00:09:19] Speaker D: Knocking on doors for weeks. People are like, what the hell are you talking about? [00:09:22] Speaker A: I don't wanna. You know, there's a member of our listening audience that we shall not be named because they don't like it when we shout them out. They are also a vehement supporter of the don't rank Ted. After they tried to bribe me. I will not be bought. [00:09:42] Speaker C: You're not the one that's bought. You're not the one that's being bought. You're buying. [00:09:46] Speaker A: I'm buying. [00:09:48] Speaker B: You're a buyer at the deadline. [00:09:50] Speaker A: How am I buying? [00:09:52] Speaker C: He's not even buying at the deadline. He's buying once it puts. [00:09:55] Speaker B: I'm just free trading. Yeah. [00:09:57] Speaker A: I'm just saying. I'm just saying vote. And then should I not tell people to vote? [00:10:04] Speaker C: Vote for me and nobody else or else. Right. [00:10:10] Speaker A: That's not what I'm. I don't say vote or else. [00:10:12] Speaker C: I'm saying the same thing. [00:10:13] Speaker A: I'm begging people to just vote in general. [00:10:18] Speaker C: Right. [00:10:19] Speaker A: You know, this is how we matter. [00:10:20] Speaker C: How you get around to Ted and his column. However you get there, just vote. [00:10:25] Speaker A: It's not what's happening. See, it's gonna come around when you guys keep doing this bit and it just. People will just continue to vote for me. [00:10:33] Speaker C: It's not a bit. If you continue to win every week. [00:10:36] Speaker A: It's but, like, I'm not doing anything. I keep saying people to vote with their conscience. [00:10:43] Speaker C: Same thing. Said the same thing. [00:10:46] Speaker A: See, and this is why these are sort of attacks, why people find me the sympathetic character in the drafts. [00:10:55] Speaker C: No, that's. Actually, we did do a vote on that. Nobody thinks you're sympathetic. [00:10:59] Speaker A: I was. There was a vote on that. [00:11:02] Speaker B: Had some pollsters go around that we actually. [00:11:04] Speaker C: Yeah, we ran a poll. [00:11:07] Speaker A: Oh, man. That will be in this exit poll for this episode of the draft. If I was sympathetic character, which I'm pretty sure will be a no. But, you know, gotta see it out there as. As this is another draft episode. Today's draft is Cart. It's the cartoon draft. Non Anime Edition, non Anime League. What? I want to proposition something. I want to eliminate two cartoons from the pool because I feel like they're all probably at 12 for all of us. Yes, it'll probably bad for SEO if we don't, you know, if they don't get picked and all that, but I'd rather lift up two others that might have gotten overlooked because these two, of course, have to make an appearance. So I am. I'm willing to hear arguments against four or any additions. I'm saying Simpsons and South park should be off the board because what more can be said about these two cartoons that have been going on just as long as we've been on God's green earth? But if you would like them to be on there, I'm more than willing to. [00:12:28] Speaker C: No, I'll. I'll take this one. Do you guys see how he already suppresses the voters? Right? Taking away a 1:1. [00:12:38] Speaker A: Okay, but what happens if I get the first pick? [00:12:40] Speaker C: Allowed to pick. [00:12:41] Speaker D: We didn't start the high school movie draft by saying, okay, and nobody can take super Bad. We all agree. [00:12:47] Speaker A: But, like, here's the thing. How many. All right, how many podcasts are there that talk about super Bad versus how many podcasts there are that talk about the Simpsons? [00:12:57] Speaker D: You know what? I just. I. I want to. I want to see where. I want to see where they go. [00:13:02] Speaker A: All right? [00:13:02] Speaker D: Since I know I'm not. I know I'm not getting the first pick, so I want to see which one Ted takes. [00:13:07] Speaker B: One of us has to at least this. Listen, boys. Ted to listen. [00:13:11] Speaker A: Okay? [00:13:12] Speaker B: One of us to get one of the two, because Ted can't get first and second pick no matter how hard he tries. [00:13:21] Speaker D: We'll see. He's very devious. [00:13:23] Speaker A: I. I don't know. At what point in your weirdo minds do you think I have rigged. Rigged a website? Do you think I have this ability? [00:13:34] Speaker B: Oh, I'm hacking in now. [00:13:38] Speaker A: Like, what. What do you think I'm doing on this website that makes you think I have rigged the wheel? [00:13:48] Speaker D: I know, but I can't wait to find out. [00:13:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:51] Speaker A: All right, I'm gonna spin the wheels. [00:13:54] Speaker B: As Ted knows with the curtain, my only caveat was if you took out Simpsons in South park, you have to take Spongebob 2. That was my only caveat. So I. I support a triple ban or no band. [00:14:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I, like, I was open to, like, if you agreed, if you wanted to make an addition, I would hear it out. And I grew spongebob because of the sort of social conscious of it being so prevalent in media in references. Like, I wanted to avoid conversation. Like, just regurgitating conversations people have heard before. [00:14:30] Speaker D: Save the longer conversations for the more. I don't want to say obscure. I don't know if anyone's taking anything especially obscure today, but, like, I don't think we need to spend, like, 10 minutes on the Simpsons. [00:14:39] Speaker A: But, like, I just feel like it's just more of a natural of. It's the Simpsons. It just sort of happens. It's so, like, we're like, we all have, like, memories of these shows that we want to share. Is my, like, and I'm not like, maybe, like, I could do an episode where we talk about them, but, like, I know Simpsons. Simpsons even. Or just, like, where we talk about the Simpsons questions or the south park episode. I like, I just feel like, like, I. I would rather give them their flowers in their own episode. And then, like, say, like, you know, then it gives someone agency to be like, oh, like, you know, person who. What goes 1, 2. Oh, with those two out, I can at least pick, you know, something I would have liked to have picked in any other scenario. [00:15:30] Speaker B: Because you somewhat feel obligated to choose it in the first round. [00:15:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:34] Speaker B: Even if it is not your cup of tea. [00:15:39] Speaker D: All I'm going to say in regards to this discussion is I do not have spongebob on my draft board. [00:15:44] Speaker A: I also don't have spongebob on my draft board as well. [00:15:47] Speaker D: I don't think everything is a slam dunk to all four people. [00:15:50] Speaker A: Yeah, that's why. That's why I said Simpson south park, because I felt rather confident about those two. [00:16:00] Speaker B: I guess we'll see how it plays out. [00:16:02] Speaker A: All right. [00:16:02] Speaker B: You could. You couldn't rig this one, Ted. [00:16:04] Speaker A: I mean, a brother. [00:16:06] Speaker C: There it is. [00:16:08] Speaker D: If it lands on red, I am all Right. Way to go, Joe. [00:16:13] Speaker B: Let's go. [00:16:15] Speaker A: We got Joe. I will remove Joe. [00:16:18] Speaker D: I got crowd cheering, too. Nice. [00:16:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess this is the most. The loudest it's ever been. [00:16:25] Speaker B: All those people are watching. [00:16:31] Speaker A: Of course. Yeah. Obviously, now everyone's going to do their little bits. I will say they weren't on my draft board to begin with. [00:16:46] Speaker D: I kind of wanted the wrap around. [00:16:48] Speaker A: I. I do like the wraparound. [00:16:49] Speaker B: A good wheel draft. I think. [00:16:51] Speaker A: I feel like this is a good. [00:16:52] Speaker B: Like, wraparound compared to some of our other ones. [00:16:56] Speaker D: I feel like John and Joe are gonna have the best. The best bits. [00:17:03] Speaker A: I'm probably just gonna give you a gift because I'm not drafting the other one because I have to be true to myself. [00:17:11] Speaker D: Well, I mean, I don't have one of them on my draft board anyway. [00:17:13] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:17:15] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. [00:17:16] Speaker A: All right, Joe. [00:17:17] Speaker D: All right. [00:17:18] Speaker A: You have the first pick. [00:17:21] Speaker B: All right, well, get ready for the. Here comes the pizza meter. [00:17:26] Speaker A: It's there. The draft does not have the bad dick sound, as is tradition. Oh, okay. [00:17:32] Speaker B: Cool, cool, cool. I would feel obligated. And now that it's even on my list, the fact or it is eligible, because before Ted and I talked about it maybe not being eligible. Yeah, you can hate me for it. You can only for it. I would like to take one. One SpongeBob SquarePants. Don't know how much time we need to have a conversation about it. I understand that people say it was only four good years and everybody's nostalgic. I like. I disagree. It's not as good. Now, one, we're all adults, but two, you can watch some of the recent episodes they've just randomly put on, you know, Nickelodeon or whatever, like, something from a recent time, and it is still funny. It still gets the point across. Maybe it's not as iconic as it used to be, but I think spongebob very much shaped a lot of the, you know, an entire generation's sense of humor as kids. I don't know how much else we want to say on it, but I'm taking one. [00:18:23] Speaker A: I think, like, in my. I think this might. This might be fake news. I read this somewhere that, like, there is sort of this perception that spongebob changed when the creator died because he was very much so against the commercial cation of spongebob that we see now that he wanted to keep it sort of what it was when he was alive. And then you can kind of see the shift when he had died. But, like, I don't know the timeline. I don't Know, you know, xyz. I do know at some point there were not a lot of spongebob. I'm not paraphernalia, but say, like, reference, like cross crossing the. To other things. References to other things. All that stuff that then sort of start of leaking into the spongebob ip, I should say. [00:19:19] Speaker B: Well, but didn't he die recently? Wasn't it. Remember they played Sweet Victory at the Super Bowl a couple years ago? I don't. [00:19:25] Speaker A: Was. I don't think that. [00:19:26] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure he died within the last, like five years or something. He might have left. I don't know. Maybe he left. [00:19:32] Speaker A: Maybe it was him leaving. But, like, there is definitely a whole from 2018. [00:19:37] Speaker B: It was the maroon five year or whatever where they played. [00:19:40] Speaker A: Was that 2018 or 2019, I guess they had. [00:19:44] Speaker B: They had Squidward introduce what's his name, the rapper. And everyone thought they were. Oh, my God, they're gonna do it. They're gonna do it. And then he just. All he did was introduce the guy. [00:19:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:54] Speaker B: So, like, there was a spongebob reference, but not what we wanted. Yeah, yeah. [00:19:57] Speaker A: I just want to say I. That is just like what I've heard. I don't know if that's obviously true. [00:20:04] Speaker B: And then I don't know, other people's, you know, opposition to it being, you know, one one or not. But when people talk about the. The length of its peak. The Beatles were only together for, like, five years. You know what I mean? And they changed the world, too. So I don't think it has to be fantastic for 35 years in order to be considered the best, you know? [00:20:22] Speaker A: All right. [00:20:23] Speaker D: It's enough to you, and that's what matters. [00:20:25] Speaker A: Yes, I'm gonna. [00:20:27] Speaker B: I was worried I was gonna get heat for spongebob. [00:20:29] Speaker A: No, no, no, I think it's fine. My first pick. This is a. I'm gonna go with a Cartoon Network show. You know, maybe it's, like, might be a little biased because we share the same name or, you know, government name. It's Ed. Ed. [00:20:46] Speaker D: Wow. [00:20:48] Speaker C: Wow. [00:20:49] Speaker A: This is my favorite cartoon. This is a little history knowledge. Animation history. This was one of the last cartoons to be done on animated on cells. And I have a cell from this TV show with all three ads on it. It is one of my favorite things I own because of just how expensive it is. Just the animation souls are just expensive. And just to have all three of them on it is very special. You know, what more can I say about Ralph, obviously one of the greatest foreign characters of all time. From who knows where with the weirdest traditions you've ever seen. But, like, I love the scamming. I just love the idea. These guys are the inept scamming of these three kids where all they want is just jawbreakers 25 cents. The family. Parents can't even give them 25 cents for a jawbreaker, and so they feel the need to trick their peers. And I just think that the movie that comes out at the end, Ed and Eddie's big picture show, I think, think is a very. Just a perfect way to sort of put a cap on that series. [00:22:04] Speaker B: I wasn't expecting it to be first round. I imagined it was going to get taken at some point. [00:22:08] Speaker C: It was. It was. [00:22:09] Speaker D: I was not surprised this got picked, but I didn't think it was going to go onew either. [00:22:13] Speaker A: It. It is my. It's just like. It is. It is like the. My comfort cartoon. Like, it is one I could just put on and just like, I will, like, actually active watch instead of passively watching. [00:22:27] Speaker B: It is. It's definitely a funny show. I liked it back in the day. [00:22:31] Speaker A: Yeah. I watched it, like, maybe. Maybe end of last year. And I'm still. I still enjoyed every episode. [00:22:39] Speaker B: Is this. Is this a safe space? Can I be honest? Sure. I'd be vulnerable with you. [00:22:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:46] Speaker B: I had a trash on the white. A crush on the white trash girls. Third grade. [00:22:52] Speaker D: All right. [00:22:53] Speaker B: I don't know why. [00:22:53] Speaker A: The canker sisters. [00:22:56] Speaker B: I don't know why. I didn't even. Even in third grade. I didn't get it at the time. I was like, there's so much clearly wrong with them. [00:23:02] Speaker A: I just want to say, yeah, this show came out. We're still in elementary school. And just the sort of social bonding it had with a lot of my friends was like. It was like a very quotable show for us in a way that, like, the Simpsons never was. And I don't think came as close to south park did for my high school friends, which was traditionally when we were watching south park, at least I was. Anyone else on edit and Eddie? [00:23:37] Speaker D: No. Solid pick. [00:23:39] Speaker A: Sam. [00:23:39] Speaker B: Respect. [00:23:40] Speaker A: Third pick. [00:23:42] Speaker D: Wow. Well, I can not believe that this lasted to three, But I'm gonna, you know, cue the pizza because I'm taking the Simpsons here. [00:23:51] Speaker A: It's not. It's like, it's objectively, what the am I doing right? [00:23:56] Speaker D: Exactly. [00:23:56] Speaker A: It's just like, yeah, because he's a simp. [00:24:01] Speaker D: Let's try that again. [00:24:04] Speaker C: I am. [00:24:04] Speaker D: I am a sim for the Simpsons, at least for the good season. [00:24:08] Speaker A: I forgot the s. Right. The second or the first s. [00:24:13] Speaker D: You're doing great. Yeah, there we go. Yeah. The Simpsons, it's far and away, like, you know, the most quotable, the most rewatchable, etc. Etc. I don't want to spend a lot of time on it because like Ted said at the beginning, like, you can listen and read and watch thousands of other things about the Simpsons, but to me, the Simpsons is Albert pujols in that, you know, it's an absolutely incredible hall of fame work. You only really want to remember, like, the St. Louis years, the, you know, hitting the ball off Bradledge to the moon. And you acknowledge the existence of the angels and dodger seasons because it, you know, helped compile and put up all these crazy numbers. But to me, Simpsons, like seasons two through eight are like Pu's decade in St. Louis. Like, untouchable. Incredible stuff. And I'll cherish it forever and watch the highlights. [00:25:11] Speaker A: The only thing I want to say is that, like, those were the years Conan was writing. [00:25:17] Speaker D: Exactly. [00:25:17] Speaker A: And like, I just want to give Conan his flowers because I don't think we're ever going to get a chance to this guy. If you want to know how prolific of a comedian as a writer Conan is, he wrote for like a season or two of the Simpsons. His. One of the best episodes of the Simpsons ever made is credited to him. I know the writer rooms for Simpsons is very different than most writer rooms and how they break stories. But like, I believe that he is the named as the head writer for the. The monorail episode, if I'm remembering correctly. And like, you know, he does a season at snl, does a couple seasons at Simpsons and everyone universe. He's like, yes, this guy should have his. Obviously should have his own TV show. Like, it's the most no brainer, slam dunk everyone's ever seen. Like, that's how good Conan is. And sorry for the sidetrack because obviously it's the Simpsons. [00:26:13] Speaker D: So what more he's also number. He's also 1:1 in my late night shows who got canceled too early draft. Whenever we have that. [00:26:23] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [00:26:24] Speaker B: Because we might have to leave him off the list. [00:26:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Because. Because that list is so long that it's very easy. [00:26:30] Speaker D: We can get some crowns out of that, I think. But yeah, don't want to harp on it too much. But since. Yeah, I'm sprinting to the podium to hand the commissioner my draft card with that. [00:26:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I don't blame you. It's like, it's like it'd be, you'd be remiss in not even including it and on any list. I feel like. I feel like it was on every single one of our lists just because. [00:26:56] Speaker B: I just wanted to add quickly on it that, like, when we were growing up, like, Simpsons at some points was, like, must see television. Yeah. [00:27:04] Speaker A: The. [00:27:05] Speaker B: Like, when the Halloween episodes would be, you know, every. Every year, like, they started promoting that, like, oh, my God, like, the Halloween Simpson is. Is. Everybody at school had to talk about it the next day. And that was already, what, 15 years into the show or whatever when we were in the 2000s. So it's. [00:27:23] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I also want to say, like, my parents attempted to sort of limit, like, fox, you know, TV shows. Not news, obviously, but, like, fox TV shows are like comedy central shows as, like, when I was a child. But, like, the Simpsons was the one. They were like, no, like, that is okay for you to watch because they knew. And under, like, they knew the show. All right, John, you got your wraparound. Fourth first pick. What do you got? [00:27:53] Speaker C: Yeah, Tidings and I are in agreement. Conan also won one for me. [00:27:58] Speaker A: Yeah. No, agreed, Agreed. [00:28:00] Speaker C: He probably has the best comedy resume. I put his resume up against anybody else. [00:28:05] Speaker A: 100. Agreed. [00:28:07] Speaker C: The other thing, too, with the Simpsons is I felt like it was jumping the shark. And then the movie came out, and the movie was fantastic. The m. I feel like it was tearing. It was teetering. Like, the Simpsons wasn't as funny anymore. Family guy was coming up. I don't want to tip picks. South park was the big, you know, player as well. [00:28:24] Speaker A: I mean, South Park. South park had that whole arc about family guy, and the Simpsons were an afterthought, sort of speak in the references for that. Yeah. I mean, there is the Simpson, but that is, to me, the Simpsons did it. It's more of a loving tribute to the Simpsons. Whereas, like, there is this true vitriol for family guy in their eyes. Anyway. Sorry, sorry, John. Go ahead. [00:28:49] Speaker C: No, no, no. It's all good. Simpsons is a great pick. My hot take, and it's not really a hot take. I think south park is a better show than the Simpsons, and I think they've just got better longevity. I love the characters fearless satire, but. And the funny thing about at Stone Trey Parker was that even during the. [00:29:11] Speaker A: I'm sorry, John, Is this your pick? [00:29:14] Speaker C: Yes, this is. [00:29:15] Speaker A: Okay. Sorry, sorry. It. You spoke as if it wasn't. [00:29:18] Speaker C: I was winded running up to. And the commissioner. [00:29:22] Speaker A: Yeah, sorry. [00:29:24] Speaker C: The funny. The funny thing was that mad Stone, Trey Parker, they always defended their episodes and said it just has to go on air whether you like it or not. And then Comedy Central for those episodes of the Muhammad, they said we're getting death threats and bomb threats to the building. Like, okay, fine, I get it. We don't have to. We don't have to show it. But take those out. I mean, you know, they've just been bold. It's unfiltered creativity. Like a really good cultural impact. First episode I ever saw was Scott Tennerman must Die. And that was a real twist on dark humor and still one of my favorite episodes. [00:29:59] Speaker A: Which episode is that? Is that the one where he feeds. Feeds the parents? [00:30:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:05] Speaker A: Okay. Just wanted to be sure. [00:30:07] Speaker B: So good. [00:30:08] Speaker C: And then the make love, not Warcraft I never played. Wow. But it's still fantastic. And Imagination Land was I think one of the few trilogies that really hit all three episodes. And it was great and a great payoff at the end. [00:30:22] Speaker A: Yeah. My only like, you know, Isaac in high school, one of my favorite characters was Randy Marsh. And as I kind of age up and south park ages up in the sense that like they sort of relate more to Randy than they do the, you know, the four kids they have centered the whole show on. I do am not terribly a fan of like the Randy focused storylines in like the very. This is more. The very more recent stuff than, you know, obviously when we were heavily watching the show and it was more a 22 season show. [00:31:04] Speaker C: I'm with you. They lean on Randy a little bit too much. I'd like to see the kids more involved. Maybe Cartman specific episodes because he's always a great foil. [00:31:12] Speaker A: I will say. Yeah. I will also say like I. I re watched the show maybe early last year. It. Cartman is so exhausting as an adult that like, it does like make it hard to re. Watch. [00:31:29] Speaker B: I agree. [00:31:32] Speaker A: But like, you know, that's sort of the point. [00:31:36] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean there's. [00:31:36] Speaker C: You're not supposed to love Cartman like he. He is an evil kid. [00:31:40] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Like the same thing on the like with the Halloween episode of Simpsons. Like there were episodes like the golden psp, Imagination Land, the Guitar Hero one that we can't say the name of anymore. You know, World of Warcraft, like the south park had literally iconic individual episodes of television that were just like perfect. [00:32:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:01] Speaker B: From start to finish. [00:32:03] Speaker A: And John, I believe. Oh, sorry. [00:32:05] Speaker C: It's also. I do have the next pick. It's also funny how I'll just find random videos on YouTube of Cartman singing like top 40 songs like there's just Cartman. Yeah, using him as know, using the kids as the intro to their concerts. Which is funny. Yeah, no, it's just great like because you've got this little 8 year old talking, you know, he's just singing freed and then he answers the door. So that's funny. All right. [00:32:27] Speaker A: I believe, believe you tipped your hand here. [00:32:32] Speaker C: Did I tip my hand? [00:32:33] Speaker A: I think, I mean we'll see, we'll see. [00:32:36] Speaker C: But I'm going with Bob's Burgers. [00:32:39] Speaker A: Oh, I, I, I expected this one from you, if I'm gonna be perfectly honest. [00:32:45] Speaker B: I thought he was, thought he was. [00:32:47] Speaker A: Tipping Family Guy before I thought he was. But now that I remember sort of a lot of like pictures I've seen of John, it sort of makes sense. [00:32:55] Speaker C: I'll explain it now. And so my friend introduced it to me and then my wife is a huge fanatic and that's what she puts on before we go to bed at night. As soon as she hears a theme song, she goes to sleep. And then I watch it and it's great. I'm going to throw this hot take out there. Bob Belcher is the best cartoon TV dad and he's a good dad because he's the only dad husband that doesn't hate his kids or like hate his family and like bemoan them. Like how many Homer's this way, Peter's this way where it's just like you get a wife that's way out of your league. You've got really good kids and you can't stand like he actually cares about the well being of his three kids and his wife. Like they annoy him because that's just how families are. Yeah, but it's really good. I love the strong female characters. I mean Louise, Tina's hysterical. [00:33:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:46] Speaker C: But Linda, I was going to say. [00:33:48] Speaker D: I think Tina is the best character on the show, but. [00:33:51] Speaker C: Right. [00:33:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm more of a gene head, but that's me. [00:33:56] Speaker C: Right. And there's, I mean, I mean they improv so much too. The other thing that we quote is whenever Tom Selleck comes up, the line from Bob's Burger is where Linda says, when I die, I want you to throw my ashes in Bob Selleck's face. Like it's just, it's great. They're all weirdos, they're all lovable. I'm trying to think of like some good episodes. My favorite episode is Topsy and then the other one where they, the, it's the Wagstaff Times where they do the reporting and the Mad Pooper That's. That's the episode. So, yeah, south park and Bob's Burgers. I'm already liking the position. [00:34:31] Speaker A: I. [00:34:32] Speaker B: Another fantastic movie, by the way. [00:34:34] Speaker A: Yes. And I was about to say another great movie. I just want to say, like, I like, this is like, a rare, nothing like complaint about that show, mainly because its run was not as, you know, exhaustive as, say, Simpson. South park is where you can kind of easily be like, oh, wow, look at the, like, last three years of pools in. In the Angels uniform. I just feel like there are all hitters for Bob's Burgers. Like, and I like, obviously the puns of the burgers is like, the most, like, moaning like, oh, geez, this guy. But it's the most dad thing who's trying to make, like, this burger business work. [00:35:16] Speaker C: And his rivalry with Jimmy Pesto is hysterical. [00:35:19] Speaker A: Well, we can't talk about Jimmy Pesto anymore. [00:35:22] Speaker C: We can't talk about the voice actor. [00:35:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:24] Speaker C: Which, by the way, just a side tangent. Right. So obviously he gets, you know, gets caught party and all that stuff. All right. Why didn't they just have someone else voice Jimmy Pesto? I didn't understand that. He just. It's a typical Italian Brooklyn accent. [00:35:40] Speaker A: I just. [00:35:41] Speaker C: Somebody else. More plots around it. Maybe they just didn't want to catch the heat. [00:35:44] Speaker A: I just think they didn't want to, like, voice actor. I don't think maybe they even wanted to deal with trying to find a new voice actor. Maybe it would have been too noticeable. Yeah. [00:35:54] Speaker B: Like, oh, they can't. You know, they did. They changed it. Like, you never know. [00:35:59] Speaker C: That's fair. [00:36:00] Speaker A: Yeah. But anyways, Sam, your second pick. [00:36:03] Speaker D: They should have had Jimmy Pestos from the Capitol in the show. My pick. A lot of different directions we can go here with a lot of the heavy hitters off the board. I am gonna go with Aqua Teen Hunger Force. This. This show is like one of my introductions into, like, the Adult Swim cinematic universe. Basically, just. I don't even remember how I randomly stumbled across it in, like, 2004. Whatever. But just an absolute joy every episode. I, as, as a youth, I related most to Meat Wad. But as I've gotten older, I found myself just as more of a Fry Lock. But to me, the quintessential quote, the line that I throw out all the time, especially the last couple of years, is shake saying, I'm 30 or 40 years old and I don't need this. That is a quote that is in my everyday rotation. I throw it out at work. And there's kids Much younger than me who have not seen the show, and they're like, well, I don't get it. You'll get it when you're older. And also just growing up in New Jersey and being in, like, the WFAN pipeline, you know, you. You'd hear and listen to Carl's every day for your entire life. And I'm glad that that was, like, my first real representation of, like, a deranged, like, North Jersey Giants fan, like, in media. And so it has a very near and dear spot in my heart. So I'm taking it here with my second pick. [00:37:54] Speaker A: Fun fact about another little animation history tidbit for Aqua Teen Hunger Force. I believe the cityscape skyline that is behind the house is the same city skyline used for the old Cartoon Network animated show SWAT Cats, if you're familiar with that. [00:38:12] Speaker B: That was a great show. [00:38:14] Speaker A: But I have no. I'm not a big A Hunger Head, so I will yield my time. [00:38:20] Speaker D: Oh, I thought you would be. [00:38:22] Speaker B: Honestly, no. [00:38:23] Speaker A: That wasn't my Adult Swim jam growing up. Maybe I pick it, maybe I won't, but I'll definitely talk about it. [00:38:33] Speaker B: Can I. Can we just take a. A moment to flashback real quick to win? Ted said that he assumed Perez was a big Bob. Bob's Burgers guy from photos he's seen of Perez. What on earth does it. [00:38:47] Speaker D: You. [00:38:47] Speaker B: You've also known him for a very. You. [00:38:50] Speaker A: Well, it's not. [00:38:51] Speaker B: What is the. [00:38:52] Speaker A: But, like, it's because I've. Yeah, it's. Oh. [00:38:56] Speaker B: Oh, we were. [00:38:57] Speaker A: I remember at your. At your bachelor party, we were not talking Bob's Burgers. We were talking about if Juan Soto was gonna be traded. But no, it's like, I. Like, it's like, I think for a long time, your profile picture on Facebook was you and your wife as Bob. And like, I like so, like, that photo is very much so. Like, I associate it with you. I associate Bob's Burger with you, I should say. [00:39:27] Speaker C: That's correct. [00:39:28] Speaker D: And that's much fairer than just saying. [00:39:30] Speaker B: You look like Bob from based off of photos. [00:39:33] Speaker D: I'm glad we got clarification. [00:39:34] Speaker A: Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, sorry. Yeah, that's what I meant. That's what I meant. I'm sorry. I exist in a place where context, like, also matters. And we're not just. I'm not here just shooting with, like, my friends. [00:39:47] Speaker D: No, of course not. [00:39:49] Speaker A: My second pick is, I think, going to be a very. Not an obvious one. Depends how you see. It's going to be a superhero show. And I think it's going to be the greatest superhero show. Batman Animated Series. Yeah, it is. That is like my bible of Batman. Like, it is what I use as like sort of like where my baseline for how I have all my Batman knowledge. It's why I say Rachel Ghoul and not Ra's al Ghul, because that is how they had always said it. I was like, well, they have to have gotten it right if they keep saying it. So it. It is just like there's that fit. I don't know if you've ever seen that clip from the show where the grunt opens like a door to a bedroom and he just sees Batman standing by a dresser and he looks at him and the grit just immediately closes the door and another one comes and goes. Anything in there? And the grunt just goes, nope. Like, it's just. I like very much. And it's like the first time like I think I ever watched like a real serialized thing because each episode is almost a two parter. Almost assuredly a two parter episode. And I have nothing more to say. It is like that is like when I think of Batman, as much as I love some of the comic runs like Hush and all that, that's what I think of Batman, like is the Animated Series. [00:41:16] Speaker B: I mean it's a very fair pick. Iconic pick. Right? It gave us Harley Quinn, right? [00:41:21] Speaker A: Right. Yes, it technically did give Harley Quinn. [00:41:25] Speaker D: No arguments here. [00:41:27] Speaker B: The artist I was name I'm forgetting was very influential on the animation design for like to this day still like so how DC Comics look. [00:41:37] Speaker A: It is so there's also like there is this weirdly timeless quality to it that is just like. I just don't know really how to express. [00:41:49] Speaker B: No, I think that's fair. [00:41:53] Speaker A: Joe, you got your second pick. [00:41:56] Speaker B: How many. How many rounds is it in total? [00:41:58] Speaker A: Six rounds. [00:41:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:00] Speaker A: Okay. [00:42:00] Speaker B: I thought so. Just want to make sure. All right. I'm going to follow up on the somewhat close the same time and to what your Batman is or your editing that he is. This is what it is to me. Which is the one, the only Cowabunga Boys Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles from the. I think it was late 80s, early 90s. I still actually have the whole collection inside of a Turtle mobile. Like you open it up and it's all the DVDs of every season. Like inside. It's got the wheels working everything. It's awesome. T Ninja Turtles. Not much to. Not much I'll say about Just like Batman. Iconic for all the kids out there. Still love it as adult. I love everything they do every version, every movie, every animated thing, like the characters and their personalities and their distinct Characteristics still work 35 plus, you know, nearly 40 years later. Oh, my God, we're 40 years later. Of how Mikey operates, how Dantel, how Leonardo, how Raphael, how they all work as characters still works in every single iteration of it. It's all about, you know, brotherhood, family, whatever, and. And kicking. Kicking butt as ninjas. Neat pizza. Love it. [00:43:15] Speaker A: And that one guy does machines. Yeah. I want to say there is a comic run. I think it's. I think it's called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Ronin, where three of the four have died, and I think Michelangelo is the one that stays alive, and he gets, like, so deathly serious. It is an incredible run of comics. I highly recommend it. [00:43:40] Speaker B: I. I tack on your serious. Yeah, no, go ahead, Sam. [00:43:45] Speaker D: Sorry I said that's too dark. I just want to see him eat pizza. [00:43:50] Speaker B: That's what I was gonna say. I. I tack on your. Your dark, serious Ninja Turtles. With the. The current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Naruto crossover comic books, which. They meet the Naruto characters, and April is from the Big Apple village, and. [00:44:07] Speaker A: Christ. [00:44:10] Speaker B: It'S actually. It's actually kind of insane. It's like. It's phenomenal, honestly. [00:44:16] Speaker A: All right, Joe, Third pick. Halfway through, I believe. [00:44:19] Speaker B: Yes. Now. Now's where it gets good. I'm going with probably my favorite. Even a spongebob is number one. And I kind of considered Ninja Turtles different because I don't know if you guys were Nickelodeon kids or Cartoon Network kids. We can get into that. Obviously, we watch both, but usually people have a, you know, affinity for one more than the other. And I was a Nickelodeon guy in specific, even though I watched Cartoon Network, and I, to this day, probably still hold. Besides spongebob, Rugrats might be one of the greatest animated, you know, kid shows or whatever, cartoons you want to say, of all time. It taught us about the world. We're, you know, four years old, learning about, you know, Jewish traditions and learn about Kwanzaa and learning about Passover and learned about everything. And there's jokes in there for the adults that I get to laugh that. You see the memes posted all over. You know, sometimes, like, with the dad is like, it's 4am what are you thinking about my life or. Or whatever. I think Rugrats is great. I even liked Rugrats All Grown up, which they were not all grown up. They were nine years old. I don't know why they called it that, but it was like. Because I Wasn't a baby. When I was five watching Rugrats, I'm like, well these guys are babies. I'm not. [00:45:27] Speaker C: I'm cool. [00:45:27] Speaker B: I'm a big boy, you know. But when I was 9 and rugrats all growing up came out and they were also nine, I was like, they're just like me for real, you know. So I'm a big Rugrats guy. [00:45:37] Speaker A: Also that first movie is a really good movie. Once again. I watched that a cut of that movie before it was finished somehow as a child. But besides that, when Spike goes over that ledge, that was the one of the most traumatizing things I had ever watched as a child. Like burned in my brain like I'm inconsolable watching this. [00:46:00] Speaker B: Even like all the Chucky like subplots like the dad like as an adult you like respect it now more from their. The creators story. Like finding a new love, losing a love, finding a new life, finding a stepsister and all that stuff. Like it's. They're Rugrats really, really did a lot. And I do wonder what would happen if it came out now. [00:46:19] Speaker A: It did. They did a 3C one. Don't you remember? [00:46:23] Speaker B: I have no idea. I don't know. Those are they remade it or. [00:46:26] Speaker A: No, they. I don't know if they remade it, but I don't know exactly. They did change quite a bit in this 3D version of it. It's not. I did watch it so I don't not saying anything about it, but I. [00:46:41] Speaker C: Guess I'll go with Romance is a Mount Rushmore. Nickelodeon like of that era. It's certainly. [00:46:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:48] Speaker C: Rushmore. [00:46:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:49] Speaker C: Shows and like I mean Reptar still gets its own Cynthia. She's a really cool dancer. [00:46:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:55] Speaker B: There's a kid on the ice. [00:46:57] Speaker C: Yep, exactly. [00:46:59] Speaker B: Also I think. I think I've seen it before. That record Rugrats essentially made Nickelodeon what it was. It was not the first animated show on Nickelodeon up saying that. But Rugrats essentially propelled Nickelodeon into the massive, you know, kids animated channel success. [00:47:16] Speaker A: How does that song go? Reptar. Reptar. Gotta get that Reptar. Am I wrong? [00:47:23] Speaker C: I think you're right. And then Angelica had the best line that still rings true to this day where you said that she's got responsibilities which. [00:47:30] Speaker B: No, she's got sponsor abilities. [00:47:32] Speaker C: Yes. And what does it mean? [00:47:36] Speaker B: It means I can't have any fun anymore or something. Right? [00:47:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:40] Speaker A: Damn. So true. [00:47:42] Speaker C: No true words are spoken. [00:47:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:44] Speaker D: That's life. [00:47:45] Speaker A: That is all right. [00:47:49] Speaker B: I have a twin. So that was the other reason Right. Because they're. Yeah. So as a kid, I was like, oh, they're just like me for real. [00:47:54] Speaker A: You know, I'm torn between two shows here, but I think I got to go with the one I like more. And that is go with your heart. This is a Adult Swim show, Sam. It is the Adventure Brothers. [00:48:07] Speaker C: It is. [00:48:08] Speaker A: It is. In my opinion. [00:48:10] Speaker D: I TR off my list here, but good pick. [00:48:12] Speaker A: It is like, I just think it's one of the greatest cartoon shows ever made. It is the. I think it's the perfect, like, parody. Like, like, I just. There's so much about it. The trope of, like, the two brothers who go on adventures, but they're just the dumbest idiots of all time. Brock Samson, you know, like this overly murderous bodyguard and this very, like the very outof pocket unaware dad. I just think they knock everything. They try to do parody and old. These, like, from the old, say, Johnny Quest type shows, they knock it out of the park. [00:48:58] Speaker D: Yeah, I mean, it's this sort of goes. I don't want to tip picks, of course, but there was this sort of run with Adult Swim where there were a lot of shows that were either just like, straight up using, like, you know, Hanna Barbera characters from the 60s and repurposing them, or, like, doing very obvious homages to them. And I think Venture Bros. Is probably number one for me in terms of, like, shows of that sort of realm in terms of. [00:49:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:25] Speaker D: How they were able to tow that line. But I gotta rethink my whole board here, Ted. [00:49:31] Speaker A: So I'm sorry. I, like, I, I, I, it's, it's. I, like, I was depending on two and let me tip picks. It was. You sort of alluded to what the show sort of did. But, like, I wanted, I just felt like I wanted the more complete show. And to me, Venture Bros. Is like the complete show. And like, it's also its last movie. Really fantastic. I just feel like we're all picking, like, shows with, like, great movies within their own, like, universe. [00:50:09] Speaker C: But it's just a credit to the writing staff to the show, the foundation there, that you can actually have a full movie and not have a drop off and not really sell out. [00:50:18] Speaker A: Well, also, like, I really feel like that movie in particular for Adventure Bros. Was such a labor of love because they're like, we don't know if we're ever gonna be able to do this, so we want to at least give you an ending that you can be happy with. And I think they just knocked it out of the park. Well, Sam, I blew up your board and I apologize. So I can't. [00:50:41] Speaker D: Completely different direction now. And I'll save my. Some of my other Adult Swim stuff for later. Should it still be on the board? This might be. I don't know if this is considered cheating. I feel like this is taking sampler platter with a pick in an appetizer draft. [00:50:55] Speaker A: But we'll talk about it. [00:50:57] Speaker D: I'm gonna go with Looney Tunes specifically if I need to get specific here. Coyote and Roadrunner. [00:51:06] Speaker A: Oh, well, I'll give you Looney Tunes. [00:51:08] Speaker B: I think we can give you Looney Tunes. [00:51:10] Speaker A: I think I could give you Looney Tunes. [00:51:12] Speaker B: Are you saying classic? Because I think not the show. I would say an era. Because there is different eras of Looney Tunes. You know what I mean? Yeah, because there was the recent one with, like, Kristen Wade. Like, that show was very funny also. [00:51:27] Speaker A: Yes, I actually did like that show. [00:51:29] Speaker D: I cannot say that that show is part of my repertoire, but. [00:51:34] Speaker A: No, you're thinking of, like, the old school. Like the ones. [00:51:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, right. [00:51:41] Speaker D: That's what I'm going with. [00:51:42] Speaker B: Rabbit season, man. [00:51:44] Speaker A: I just, like, exactly. Didn't really like. For some reason my brain. I didn't, like, count this as, like, a cartoon to me because it just, like, it just. [00:51:55] Speaker C: I have my board built down to. [00:51:56] Speaker D: Different segments, like, know, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, like, classic, and then just like, other. But like this. I mean, I'm not gonna necessarily take these, but like the other Hanna Barbera stuff, like, you know, Flintstones, Scooby Doo, etc, Like, I. I assume that those are all fair game. And so I figured, well, Looney Tunes is kind of just like the best of all worlds. [00:52:22] Speaker A: Well, so I want to say I do have Scooby Doo on my board, and it is a very specific run of Scooby Doo. No, it's not. [00:52:33] Speaker B: As long as you choose an era of Looney Tunes. Do you don't say the last 65 years of. Of episodes of it. I think it's. I think it's a very great pick. I think it's a fantastic thing. [00:52:43] Speaker D: No, I'm taking the original, like, like 60s era. Like the sit. Like, there's a run of. I was doing some. Doing my own research here on YouTube and by which I mean just watching a bunch of Roadrunner and Coyote cartoons over the weekend. Last weekend when it was 95 degrees out, and there's just. It. It's excellent, you know, narrative storytelling, animation, et cetera, without any dialogue. And it just stands out to me as like, you know, the fact that you could make kids laugh without having to, like, explain through words what's going on was always a hit. And it's always. You know what? It's always funny when he's running off the cliff and he doesn't realize he's about to fall until he looks down. That is a great bed. [00:53:31] Speaker A: I want to say, like, because you brought that up. One of my favorite things when I was in school, animation school, was like. So I was a little more, like, plugged into just like anything animation related was when that, like, that desk of one of the animators was released. And it's like, here's Tex Avery rules for. Like, for Coyote for the show. [00:53:55] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:53:55] Speaker A: Rules for. So it was specifically for Coyote. And it was like. And one of them was like, gravity works until he notices it shouldn't be working. It's like. Was such, like a. That is a foundation of Coyote. Like, without that, it doesn't work. Like, the acting products will always fail. Like, it is. Everything is in its power to make him fail. [00:54:19] Speaker D: Chuck Jones. Not taxable for the record, but. [00:54:22] Speaker A: Right. Sorry. Yeah. Chuck Jones. All right. Nothing else. No one for more Looney Tunes. [00:54:30] Speaker B: It's just incredible. [00:54:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:32] Speaker B: I always, like. Just a little caveat. The fun thing I didn't know as a kid, obviously, and what's it called, the who Framed Roger Rabbit. That. [00:54:39] Speaker A: Yes. [00:54:40] Speaker B: Bugs Money and Mickey Mouse. I'm sure everybody knows. But for those unfamiliar. Bugs Money and Mickey Mouse by contract, had to be on the screen for the exact amount, same frames in that movie. And I think. Because at that time. We think of it now, Mickey obviously is bigger because Looney Tunes isn't doing as well. Not that's bad. But. [00:54:58] Speaker A: Well, it's more I want, like. [00:54:59] Speaker B: Well, you know, besides. [00:55:01] Speaker A: Right. [00:55:01] Speaker B: There's no Looney Tunes world or whatever the same as Disney. But at the time, in the 80s, like 6070s and 80s, like, Bugs Bunny was absolutely just as big as Mickey Mouse. And I think. [00:55:11] Speaker D: I know we want to talk about cartoons with great movies. Of course. Space Jam is right there. [00:55:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:19] Speaker B: That might be the truest. [00:55:21] Speaker D: The Simpsons Movie. Bob's Burgers. Obviously, you know, you can't talk about these great works of art without mentioning the role that Bugs had in getting the Toon Squad over the line. [00:55:33] Speaker A: I want to say in regards to. Oh, you. You kind of like, blitz through a lot. I think I lost my place. Oh. It was brought up during the Disney draft where one person was. So I think it was Joe someone here. It was so assuredly thought that Who Framed Roger Raptor was a Disney movie because Nikki was in was probably me. [00:56:01] Speaker B: Yeah. I just didn't know. And it's all it is. In my defense, I did watch it on Disney plus, so. [00:56:07] Speaker A: But. But yeah, I have no notes on Looney Tunes, you know. John, next pick. [00:56:14] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm excited for the wraparound. I got nothing else. [00:56:17] Speaker C: Okay, that's good to know. I'm gonna stick. I'm gonna go with my first Nickelodeon pick. Rugrats was on my board, but was number two on my board. I'm going with hey Arnold as the first pick in this wraparound. I would make the argument that the greatest show episode in the history of Nickelodeon is Arnold's Christmas when he brings back Mr. Wynn's daughter. It's a tear jerker. I. I think anybody who watched that at any age can empathize with Mr. Hyun. But it touched on real life things. It made being a kid seem cool. But also there was the gravity of the world on these kids and spoke to real issues. You know, there were. There were tones of addiction, self, body positivity. You know, just. It goes on and on. But there were moments of humility, of humor. It had everything wrapped into it and it really taught you a lot about the world. And I thought it was great for all ages. So I'm going with hey Arnold for the first one. A Mount Rushmore Nickelodeon show with SpongeBob and Rugrats. [00:57:25] Speaker A: I think that was also on my board. Technically it was number two on my board, but it was more. I made my board based on what I remembered and vibes rather than a cohesive drop board. But it was like the second cartoon I had thought of. [00:57:44] Speaker B: Honestly. Like, you're. Your photos make me think you would be a hey Arnold fan. You know. [00:57:52] Speaker A: Every time I look at Perez, I go, wow, look at that head on that guy. Crazy. [00:57:59] Speaker C: The flat top, but all right. [00:58:01] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:58:06] Speaker C: Hey, Arnold might have like the best soundtrack too. Just think about the jazz. [00:58:10] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really good. [00:58:12] Speaker C: Very good. [00:58:16] Speaker B: You play sketch with Mickey Mantle, but it's not Mickey. [00:58:23] Speaker D: Come on. [00:58:24] Speaker A: Not. Not even. [00:58:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:28] Speaker C: Mickey Kaline, who I think today would just be a dh, Right? Like, they wouldn't put him out in the field. [00:58:32] Speaker B: That's fair. Yeah. He'd be Albert Pujols. [00:58:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:39] Speaker A: It all comes back to how everything's pools. [00:58:43] Speaker D: The great cartoon theory of pooh holes. [00:58:45] Speaker B: Yes. [00:58:46] Speaker D: I gotta figure out how the hell I can link my next pic to him. But I'll find out. [00:58:50] Speaker B: Dora the Explorer is actually two years older than she says she is just like. [00:58:57] Speaker C: Sarah's daughter's actually like five years older and not his daughter. [00:59:05] Speaker A: To your wraparound pick. [00:59:07] Speaker C: Wraparound pick. I'm going with Futurama. I don't know if this counts as Adult Swim, but it's Fox. [00:59:14] Speaker A: It would be Fox. [00:59:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fine. [00:59:18] Speaker C: Yeah, Futurama's great. You're getting the remnants of the Simpsons and those writers and that creative style. It's a good. I mean, not exactly a spin off, but has fresh Simpsons undertones. I really like the episode. It's Jurassic Park. Like just one of the best moments. Fry finds his fossilized dog. [00:59:42] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:59:43] Speaker C: They learned that, like Seymour waited for him every day. Like that really hits you there. I always do the Zoidberg whenever I'm just walking anywhere and I get the looks from people. But yes. No, that's great, Kimmy. I'm trying to think of the other characters, but. But they're all, they're all great. So Futurama is my second pick. [01:00:05] Speaker A: That is. That show is a emotional nightmare because, like, you will be hit with some of the most heart wrenching episodes of television you'll probably ever watch in your life. [01:00:19] Speaker C: And then you've just got Bender. [01:00:21] Speaker B: Yeah, Bender might be the most iconic, like sidekick, animated character. [01:00:28] Speaker A: He. [01:00:28] Speaker B: He might be a Matt Rushmore sidekick, animated character. Bender. [01:00:34] Speaker A: All right, Sam, your pick. [01:00:39] Speaker D: All right. I'm gonna go with a show that is near and dear to my heart. I don't know if it was on anybody else's board. I'm hoping it was, but not expecting it. And that would be the three season run of the Life and Times of Tim on HBO from 2009 to 2012. That was just true art to me. And by the, by the extremely loud silence from the other three people on this call, I am guessing I could have waited longer to make this pick, but I didn't want to risk it. [01:01:20] Speaker A: Is this where you're. Is this where your profile picture is from on Twitter? [01:01:24] Speaker D: Right. So on. On my now defunct Twitter account, I did have my profile set to the picture of the boss from Life and Times of Tim. And it's. It's given me some iconic lines I still use in my day to day life. It was taken from us too early. Nick Kroll is Stub Balls, another great sidekick. Not Bender level, but great. And if you have not seen it, which I am guessing that many of the people listening have not, go ahead and fire up whatever the hell they're calling HBO Max these days and lock in. [01:02:05] Speaker A: You got it on the first try called HBO Max again. [01:02:11] Speaker D: Oh, there we go. Well, maybe by the time the podcast drops, it might be called something else. So I just want to be safe. [01:02:16] Speaker A: It's getting dropped tomorrow. [01:02:19] Speaker D: You never know with the. The corporate mergers and whatnot. [01:02:21] Speaker A: All right, well, did you see south park said this? Mergers and nightmares where they. They really don't know when the next season's gonna be out because of it. [01:02:29] Speaker C: By the way, that's the only show that can do that. [01:02:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:32] Speaker C: Like, them and the Simpsons are the only shows that could go out voice pleasure at the network. Right. And the network be like, all right, we're sorry. [01:02:39] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. Trying to think what I want to pick out of home. A lot of Adult Swim on my board. I think I gotta know what. I gotta do it. My heart can't let this show go unpicked. This is the TV show that taught me what satire is. Space goes coast to coast. [01:03:04] Speaker C: Yes. [01:03:07] Speaker A: Speaking of talk show, that guy canceled too early. If you want to call it that. [01:03:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:03:16] Speaker A: Like, I don't. [01:03:18] Speaker D: Was on Space Conan. [01:03:20] Speaker A: Was on Space Guns. Yes. Album Pools, unfortunately, was not on Space Ghost. [01:03:27] Speaker D: This show early. [01:03:28] Speaker A: Yeah. This show, like, as a young child, had no idea what satire was, and I had no concept of, like, what a talk show was, because that's not what I was watching. But there was something about this show that I sort of just intuitively understood was naturally funny. There was something about this that was funny to me. And when I would try to explain it to my friends, I was like, yeah, he has famous people on, and he kind of just like, thinks they're superheroes, and they're like, that's not. I don't understand why that's funny. But to me, there was something funny about this. Obviously. You know, his interaction with Brack. I almost said Thunder cle, but that's the. That's the bra show. And his. The two other ones. I can't remember, the Moltar and whatever the bug's name is. Who would be the foil to Space Ghost. But this is a satire of late night talk shows they used because, like, Adult Swim was. Is cheap. It still is. They just used animation cells from a show called Space Ghost, and they just sort of just repurposed them for this show, which is why it's a lot of stilted animation, a lot of still. But I love it. And that theme song is. It's a killer. [01:05:05] Speaker B: I was, like, too young as a kid, like, you know, watching Adult Swim. We shouldn't. And I just, like. I couldn't comprehend that there was an animated talk show. You know what I mean? It was like, how is this real? How are they doing this right now? Like, so I was like, so focused on that instead of the humor of it. So I wasn't as in on it as I. As I should have been because I. I hear all constantly how phenomenal that show was. I just. [01:05:31] Speaker A: It's still good. When the voice actor died. Passed away like a year ago. The adults from YouTube channels. I was just streaming it for like maybe three weeks and that's all I was watching. [01:05:48] Speaker D: I'm with Joe. I definitely did not appreciate it as much like when I was first encountering it. And then in college when I had more downtime and spent way too much of it watching random Adult Swim series from the early 2000s and late 90s, I was like, oh, this is hilarious. But I also get why I didn't understand it as a 10 year old. But yeah, I mean, I feel like we could do an entire draft of just Adult Swim shows, but I feel like we're it. It'd be. It would have been bad if nobody picked this. [01:06:22] Speaker A: It's. I. I just feel like it was down to you or me who was gonna pick this. [01:06:26] Speaker D: It was on my board, so it was getting picked. [01:06:28] Speaker A: It's just like. Like I said, there was something so. Because, like, I like my dad. Is it like we. I grew up in a very comedy heavy family. Like, that is what like was very. I had been surrounded by growing up. So when I watched Space Ghost as like a child who probably shouldn't have been watching Space Ghost, there was just something about it that I understood was funny, even if I didn't know what it was yet. All right, Joe, your next pick. [01:07:00] Speaker B: This is my last or. [01:07:01] Speaker A: No, you have three. [01:07:03] Speaker B: I. I ended. I ended. [01:07:04] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [01:07:06] Speaker B: It wraps around. And to me, you have three. [01:07:09] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. [01:07:11] Speaker B: I. I think so. Full transparency. I was very interested in taking Tiny Tune Adventures, which is just like Looney Tunes, but it's almost like kind of the same thing as Rugrats because I'm using the kids version of it or whatever. And I'm like, you know, it's like, take it. Maybe we'll just do the best of both worlds. So I'm going to pivot and it'll do a little tiny Tunes, but a little. Little fun Looney Tune action. Ish. And we're going the animaniacs from the 90s. That one of Spielberg's classics. [01:07:47] Speaker A: That was. I was debating between Space Ghosts and this oh. [01:07:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. For Spielberg, kind of just on a generational run of that era. If you look. If you look through that era of was Warner Brothers, 80s, 90s kid shows that he was just kind of making for the fun of it. I guess maybe he wanted to have good shows for his kids to watch or whatever. But that whole era, just iconic Animaniacs also encompasses a lot of. A lot of things the same way that Looney Tunes does. Like, I know there were kind of shows on their own, but then there was also under the Animaniacs umbrella, like. Like Pinky and the Brain and other iconic things. There's. The humor is just so funny to this day. You see clips about it that we didn't under. That we laughed as kids because we knew it was funny. We just didn't know why. Right. Like the. Like the fingerprints when she's holding prints and like the. The countries of the world and everything like that. Like, every Animaniacs episode is just hilarious. And, you know, great job by Spielberg. [01:08:53] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, this was obviously on my board. Like, it is like, this is what I preferred to over Looney Tunes, which is why I was on my board. Like, it's just like. Like, it was just so kooky and crazy that, like, it just appealed to that, like, I guess add child brain. [01:09:12] Speaker B: Yeah. And a great. The opening theme song. Right. Iconic theme song as well. [01:09:17] Speaker A: I mean, they have iconic songs. Yeah. Dude. [01:09:21] Speaker B: I don't know if anyone else has any thoughts on Animaniacs, but Joe, go. [01:09:26] Speaker A: On to your next pick. [01:09:29] Speaker B: Next pick. I think I'll go old school to get it out, to get it out of the way. Show some respect to our. Our animated elders out here. I'm not going as old as Popeye, but I'm going back to that Looney Tunes ish era and I'm going Tom and Jerry. I grew up as a kid watching a lot of Boomerang. For those kids who are watching now, Boomerang was essentially a. All classic cartoons channel that showed stuff for, you know, the Jetsons, the Flintstones and Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes and all the stuff from the 60s and 70s. But we were watching it in the 90s, and that was literally religiously on in our. In our household, we had Boomerang on all the time, Tom and Jerry for the, like, looking back and appreciating it now as an adult, like, the writing restrictions that they had on that show without the ability to speak, without, you know, just a lot of things that other animated shows had access to, like, you can still watch an episode of. Of Tom and Tom and Jerry from the 60s, and, like, it is still really well paced, really well thought out. The jokes still land. Even as an adult, like, I think Tom and Jerry is, like, the quintessential, like, story, like, storytelling without having access towards, like, it's hilarious. Love, Tom and Jerry. [01:10:51] Speaker A: Now, Sam, you can correct me if I'm wrong. My problem with Tom and Jerry is that, like, Jerry's just running around smelling the woman's panties. [01:11:04] Speaker D: I mean, that's not how I remember it. [01:11:06] Speaker C: Well, you. [01:11:07] Speaker A: Well, you weren't with them. You weren't with Jerry all the time. It wasn't just Tom being chased by Jerry. It's a. I think you should leave bitch out so you know. You know how much John and Joe love. I think you should leave. More so than Sam and I ever could. I know. [01:11:24] Speaker B: I saw. Saw that one episode when she was sad that Christmas came early. That was it with the printer. [01:11:30] Speaker D: Did you watch Friendship, though? [01:11:32] Speaker B: No, I haven't, because I haven't had a friend to watch it with. I think that's a requirement, right? [01:11:36] Speaker A: I. I think. I think it's so much better with, like, at least of one person there or, like, a couple people. I think if you watch it by yourself, it's gonna be a bummer time. Sam, I will say this. I've started saying the eatery a lot. [01:11:55] Speaker B: He told me about the eatery. [01:11:58] Speaker A: I did say. I did describe that scene to Joe because I just laugh every time I. I hear Subway and go to Eery. [01:12:05] Speaker D: I just find myself muttering, we never should have left Afghanistan. Whenever there's, like, a low. But that's not an animated movie. [01:12:15] Speaker A: Let's. Let's get back on track. All right. What am I gonna pick here? I'm kind of torn. I'm looking at, like. I'm looking at Line seven on my sheet, and it's. It's like. It's like almost like I feel like I can't in good conscience have this show not be picked. I feel like going King of the Hill. What? Did I blow it up once again? Wow. I just, like. [01:12:47] Speaker D: No, I've just. I've been sniped three times in this draft between you and Perez. [01:12:52] Speaker A: I just, like, yeah, sorry. There is like. Like, I don't. It's hard to describe King of the Hill. I think in. In a. In a sense, because, like, it is a show that feels so unpolitically motivated but so innately political, if that makes sense. There's just. [01:13:24] Speaker C: Yeah, there's a whole episode where he gets a dead fish handshake from Governor Bush. [01:13:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:28] Speaker C: Hopes about. [01:13:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, yeah. It just like, I don't. It's so hard to be like. I, like, it's like. Which is why I'm a little worried about the. The reboot or not the reboot. The continuation, I guess. But it. There's just so something about it that I love. Obviously my favorite episode is when Bobby goes to the self defense classes and he. His go to move is to kick people in the balls. But he. But before he does that, he goes, I don't know you. That's my purse. And would kick people in the balls. It is. I don't know what it was. It is just very funny. And also a line I loved is in the finale when Bobby finally like gets the nerve to ask out his crush. And Joseph is watching it and he goes, wow. Bobby's like this. If he's a deck of cards, he's like the king of hearts or something. And we're just like all the cards with the rules on. Just kills me. Like, what a great thing to think about yourself. But yeah, I, you know, it's king of the hill. I just feel like, oh, shoot, I'm blanking on his name. Who made it? Mike Judge. Mike Judge. I just feel like it would be a disservice to not include one of his shows. I will say his other show is also on my list. [01:15:01] Speaker C: Sam Boomhauer is great too. [01:15:03] Speaker A: Boom. Howard is great. Yes. [01:15:08] Speaker D: A lot of iconic, like, lines and one offs from that. Like, like Pocket Sando and do I look like I know what a JPEG is, etc. One of my favorite episodes, though is where Hank wins the opportunity to go to one of the Cowboys games and, like, throw a football through a hole. And so he's like practicing and practicing and practicing. And then they give him the option, oh, do you want, like, Roger Staubach to do it instead? And at the end he like, acquiesces and Staubach does it and it like rims out and doesn't go in. And he's consoling Hank afterwards. And he's like, I know, like, you might not believe this, but I set up something in my yard and I was practicing for weeks and I can't believe it didn't happen. And I was like, wow, I would absolutely be the same as Hank Hill and Roger Staubach if I ever got entered into those stupid college push the ball through the hoop to win your scholarship money things. But never materialized on my end. So much like how Ted didn't want to leave without something from the Mike Judge universe, I also don't want to leave here without something from the Adam Reed universe. And I'm deciding. I only have two picks left, and I'm deciding between three shows here. So I'm gonna go with Archer because I've already taken on Adult Swim stuff, and I feel like this is right after he did Sealab and Frisky Dingo, which I might end up taking anyway, but we'll see. [01:16:46] Speaker A: Wow, I completely left that off my board. [01:16:49] Speaker D: Oh, it's. It's on there. It is high on there for me. [01:16:52] Speaker A: But that is a great show. [01:16:53] Speaker D: I didn't want to just make it. The Sam picks three Adam Reed shows and three random shows. But Archer, to me, I think it's his best combination of. At least in the first, you know, eight or so seasons of. It's got incredible voice acting work. I did really did not want to leave this without an H on Benjamin show either. Jessica Walther, who's basically just playing Lucille Bluth again, but literally no complaints here, because what a character. Judy Greer, also. And then the guys who played Krieger and Pam who were on some of his other shows also. It's just really excellent work all the way down this sort of like, faux retro future thing. Kind of like how the Simpsons never name drops where Springfield is like. You never know, like, what year Archer is taking place in. And also, it made me laugh that the guy who voiced Meatwad also voiced Barry because they are very opposite characters. Anyway, big fan of Adam Reed, big fan of Archer. I'm taking it. My fifth pick. [01:18:01] Speaker B: I think it would have been a travesty if Archer was not taking. [01:18:05] Speaker A: I gotta. I'll talk about it when I probably do my next. My last pick. But, John, you're right. [01:18:11] Speaker C: Yeah, I like Archer too. I like the episode where he has to probably freeze the hostages or. But it was basically like a take on the Somali pirates, and then he gives himself king cancer, so he's battling chemo. And then others too. That's just a great episode. I'm gonna stick with h. John Benjamin 2 and dip into Adult Swim. I'm going with Home Movie. [01:18:33] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:18:35] Speaker B: I knew it was coming. [01:18:37] Speaker A: Oh, man, I. I wanna. I'm so annoyed. [01:18:40] Speaker C: But I respect about this. I mean, as you can see, like, I just love deadpan humor. And, like, it was the first show that I saw on Adult Swim. It might have been the first one that aired. I feel like I remember the first Night. [01:18:57] Speaker A: So it used to be a Fox show and then flamed out there. And that's why I kind of got a run on Adult Swim and new episodes. [01:19:05] Speaker C: Fox really has a run of. I'm not going to pick. And we'll talk about honorable mentions if it does get picked. But Fox has a long list of shows that did not make it right away and then found new life. Whether it's animated, cartoon, you know. [01:19:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:19] Speaker C: Cartoons or real action. Coach McGurk is just a disaster. [01:19:25] Speaker B: He is. [01:19:26] Speaker A: He is. Like, I wanted to. I wanted it so bad because I wanted to prep. It's like, of course I can't. I need another John H. Benjamin. I wanted to at least pick him. Archer wasn't my bag because I just, you know, never watched it. I knew Bob's Burger was going to be picked, but by John in some capacity. But home movies is, like, quintessential. Like, I have it all on DVD, and Coach McGurk, just everything out of his mouth is the most deplorable degenerate you'll ever hear. And it's just like, I love. When I was doing prod stuff on my first offseason at MLB, there was another guy who so loved Coach McGurk. And we would just sit around always going, hey, Brendan. Hey, Brendan. You gotta, like. You ever, like, know what a woman is doing when she's in the bathroom? Just like. It's just like, everything out of his mouth is just out of. Out of pocket for a. An adult to be saying to a child. And one of my favorite quotes, all movies is by Brendan Smalls, who did Metalocalypse because his first passion is metal music. But it is a show that is loosely based off of his life. And his parents have watched it, and they have the only thing they've ever said about that show, which might be telling how much of it is real, is them going, we don't know who Coach McGurk is supposed to be. Like, they have no understanding of, like, who this character is. [01:21:06] Speaker C: No, you're right. And what's cool about him is that he's not like Archer or Bob Belcher. But I feel like he makes those two characters more dynamic. Like, I think if there was no home movies, then Bob and Archer aren't as funny characters as they are. The other thing that I love, too, is, like, the whole thing about home movies is it's just so amateur. [01:21:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:30] Speaker C: There's no punchlines. It's like little. Little things, like losing a camera ends up turning into, like, being the biggest deal in the world. Yeah, Paula, the Mob has a great line like, I'm not an alcoholic. I just drink when I'm bored or busy or sad. Like, it's just, like, very sad and also very funny. Trying to think, what was the other one? Jason is just, like, unpredictable, chaotic intensity. Like, he's. He's great. [01:21:58] Speaker A: And it's just like an honest. [01:22:00] Speaker C: Very amateur. Yeah. Like, it's an honest show. It's not polished at all. It is just a beautiful mess of a program. [01:22:08] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. Like, it's honest because, like, everything Brendan's going through seems like the biggest deals because, like, that's what it is. To be a kid is like, any little minor inconvenience is just a huge blowup of your life and just ways that cannot be explained. Well, I just want to say. John, hold on. I just want to say, John, thank you for making my last pick very easy because I didn't know if I was going to take home movies, but glad I got to talk about it. [01:22:38] Speaker C: If I pick your next pick now, I think. [01:22:40] Speaker A: I don't think you will, but that's. [01:22:42] Speaker C: Not going to happen. I'm kind of torn between two, and one will be on the honorable mention because I don't think, like, I'm trying to think, like, definitely one of these should. Should be drafted. I don't know if you guys will, but I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna go with cat. Dog. [01:23:10] Speaker A: I got some not nice things to say about that. Bad answer. Bad answer. [01:23:15] Speaker B: Great answer. [01:23:16] Speaker D: You don't understand, Ted. It is a cat and a dog. What are you not getting about even. [01:23:21] Speaker B: A fish and a bonehouse. [01:23:22] Speaker A: I just. I'll. I'll. I just want to say, I just like that show is. Everyone is so unlikable in that show, but I will yield my time. [01:23:32] Speaker C: What you talking about? Like, about. [01:23:33] Speaker D: It's a cartoon. [01:23:35] Speaker C: Yeah, it's. It's a cartoon. They've got absurd characters. They also just have three characters. And I know three is a stretch, but, like, it's literally. It's literally the same character is the same. The same guy. Mr. Rabbit is just all over the place. Like, it's hysterical. No, but listen. What don't you get? It's a cat and a dog. [01:23:59] Speaker A: It's not the problem. Collectibles, not the problem. [01:24:04] Speaker B: It's just too high brow. [01:24:05] Speaker A: No, it's definitely not that. [01:24:07] Speaker B: I understand the concept. [01:24:10] Speaker C: Now, listen, it's got. It's got the creative humor where it's a little gross, but not, you know, like, cartoon violence. A little messy, but that's how the 90s were. Great theme song. And you just think about. Think about Cat as, like, a metaphor. Right. On a deeper level level. [01:24:28] Speaker B: Okay. [01:24:29] Speaker C: It's about duality. [01:24:30] Speaker A: All right. Hey, Sam, what's your last pick? So, Sam, what's your last pick? [01:24:34] Speaker C: Stability literally fused into one body. [01:24:41] Speaker A: So I would say the movie's very good. I actually do like that movie where they try to figure out where they came from. [01:24:48] Speaker B: Keeping the trend up. [01:24:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:24:51] Speaker B: Good movies. [01:24:52] Speaker C: Listen, Rancid Rabbit is one of the most versatile actors. [01:24:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Sam, your last pick. [01:25:03] Speaker C: All right. [01:25:05] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm really in hell right now because there's a bunch that I feel like if I don't pick it, I'm just gonna have to ramble about them in Honorable mention. [01:25:12] Speaker A: Yeah. I want to say this is the most narrowed down my board has gotten towards the end, whereas everything else has been pretty wide open for me. [01:25:22] Speaker D: This is a tough one. Geez. I am going to go. I feel like most of these have sort of been touched on because of either the, like, creators, the voice actors, or the networks, at least. So I'm gonna go with the Boondocks animated show. [01:25:43] Speaker A: Oh, that's a great pick. [01:25:46] Speaker D: Thank you. Thank you. Not big in the longevity department, but big on, like, episodes that stand the test of time. I remember, like, reading the Boondocks, like, comic strip in, like, the Trend times or whatever growing up, and when I heard they were making a TV show, I was like, oh, how the hell are they gonna make this happen? And it's really incredible stuff, especially as a white teenager growing up in New Jersey. It was just sort of like, oh, you can put this on tv. That's. That's crazy. [01:26:23] Speaker C: So. [01:26:26] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm pretending that the reboot season didn't happen, but original run of the Boondocks on Cartoon Network is what I got with my last pick. [01:26:38] Speaker A: I want to say, you know, a big miss on my partner having this on my board. I guess I should really be listening rather than using my privilege to speak. [01:26:50] Speaker D: That's right, Ted. You should be more inclusive with your picks. I mean, I took the Boondocks, obviously. Joe took the Ninja Turtles. John took Cat Dog, and I feel like I'm looking at your list right now. I'm just not seeing a lot of diverse content on there, so I'm looking forward to seeing. [01:27:09] Speaker A: I don't know what you mean by diverse content. Well, you know, fine. You know what? You've made my pick easier for me. I'm gonna go with probably one of the quintessential action cartoons of all time, Samurai Jack. [01:27:22] Speaker D: There you go. [01:27:23] Speaker B: I was waiting. [01:27:25] Speaker D: Yeah, I could bully you into this deck, but go ahead. [01:27:27] Speaker A: Well, it was probably gonna be the pick if it wasn't home movies. It's, I mean like not true. [01:27:34] Speaker C: I was gonna pick that if it wasn't for Cat Dog. [01:27:38] Speaker A: It's just like the ideation of the like barely silent protagonist of Jack going through like these. It's just like it's spanning so much. And like I love. There's something I always love about main characters who aren't the main character, if that makes sense. Like I watch Samurai Jack and like yes, it's about Jack, but episode to episode, it's not about Jack. It's about like these decroded places he finds himself in trying to fix what AKU has done to them and how it's affected these people that are living in these scenarios. And I think as an anthology and like a show that is able to come back years later and sort of knock it out of the park with an extra season is I feel like very rare. And that is a Samurai Jack. To me. [01:28:47] Speaker B: It was definitely like a serious like as kids it allows us or let us know like cartoons could be serious. Right? Like, I'm not saying it was the first non comedy we ever watched, but like as a serializer, oh wow. This you could have actual dramatic storyline. [01:29:05] Speaker A: Out of them and like a real. [01:29:07] Speaker D: A real arc too. And not just like, oh, it resets at the end of the episode. [01:29:10] Speaker A: Yes, exactly. And I just like as much as. [01:29:13] Speaker D: Theme song, just wanted it out there. [01:29:17] Speaker A: You know, upon reflection, as much as Sam wanted certain creators, voice actors, um, I just so desperately needed one, I think one of the goats for Cartoon Network Gen D Tarakovsky represented on this list. If you're unfamiliar with the name. He's Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, like, and something I like when I remembered he had done this something, something that should have been on my list was Clone wars, which I think is one of the best like third party Star wars thing I think I've ever watched or enjoyed. [01:29:57] Speaker B: I definitely thought Clone wars was gonna make it. If not, we talked about it in honorable mentions. [01:30:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I think upon reflection it's like now it's on my honorable mentions. Like it's just like the episode where Anakin defeats that Sith lady and like it's flashing and he's using the red lightsaber. I think it's one of the greatest pieces of cartoons in like in anything. But yes, that is My last pick. [01:30:29] Speaker B: I'm in the ringer here, guys. This is because, like, do I go. Do I go something modern? Represent a modern show? I don't really have any modern stuff on my list of modern day cartoons I've enjoyed. Do go classic. Gotta end with a bang. And I feel bad, feel I'm nervous. I'm gonna go with my heart. Last pick. I'm gonna go regular show. [01:30:56] Speaker A: Yes, bro. Dude, that would have been I that, like, no joke. That was gonna be the pick. [01:31:04] Speaker B: So I think I'm not a big adventure time guy. [01:31:07] Speaker A: People kill before, bro. I'm on your side. [01:31:13] Speaker B: It feels nice to have Ted on my side finally instead of, you know, oh, it's gonna be no, I'm so, so dumb. Stupid, dumb idiot. Totally wrong. So it feels nice to be on this side. I think regular show is a hilarious show. Like, even though they're like birds and random animals and a gumball machine and like a gorilla, like, if, you know, they feel like people like every episode is the. The cliche of like, oh man, I don't want to do work today. And then like catastrophic world ending event that they saved them for in their nine to five at the park. It's. For anyone who has not seen regular show I love is one of the funniest things. Like every single episode is an absolute banger. So I wanted to get something modern. I was. If, you know, anyone has any other thoughts on regular show, I was between that and Phineas and Ferb as my modern representation of. Of cartoons. But I. I had. I had to go with. With regular show there. [01:32:08] Speaker A: I Regular shows one of those shows that got their flowers on social media some time ago where they're just like, regular's the best. Because what show can do this? And it's just like one of the most insane sequences you'll ever see in your life. One of my favorite is when Benson, like busts through the door. It's like, what are you guys doing? He's like, this horse fell for. This horse fell from space and has to pass his u. S. History test, otherwise the world will explode. And he's like, what? Like, it's that every episode. I love that. I love. Like, I'm. Thank you. I like, I was going to be punching the air. I was like, I can't believe I have to say this as a. As an honorable mention, because it's just like, I really wanted to pick it. Like, JG Quintel is one of my favorite people to come out of. Like, sort of like CalArts umbrella. He has another show, which I think is really great, too, that I think people should, like. I forget it was an HBO Max. HBO show as well. But, like, regular. There's something about regular show that is just so, like. It's like, I say this about, like, because regular show and Adventure Time are coming out at the same time. [01:33:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:23] Speaker A: And that, like. Like, in terms of, like, sort of quasi adults liking and, like, like, adult Adventure Times to show you. You, like, when you're, like, in college, in high school. And regular shows to show you, like, I don't get this, but when you're adult. When you're an adult, regular show, like, speaks to you in, like, a way that only, like, a lizard could speak to another lizard. It's because it's just, like. It is like, hitting something that you're. You are so agreeable with. That's like, yeah. I would rather do anything else than my, like, 9 to 5 job. [01:34:02] Speaker B: And also the potentially most quotable. Potentially most quotable line of all of animated history of my mom. [01:34:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My mom. [01:34:16] Speaker B: I mean, Mark Hamill said, bro, oh, God, it is such a fantastic show. [01:34:22] Speaker A: I'm glad it got picked, I gotta say. [01:34:27] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:34:30] Speaker A: I just gotta say. I only have three of my honorable mention, which is kind of crazy. I feel like usually I have, like, five I wanna. Or eight I want to rattle off. [01:34:39] Speaker D: I got a bunch, though. [01:34:40] Speaker B: I have a bunch. Yeah. [01:34:41] Speaker A: Beavis and Butthead was, like, the odd, like, obvious. [01:34:45] Speaker D: But I feel like once you took King of the Hill, I'd be like, well, it'd be weird to take Beavis and Butthead now. [01:34:49] Speaker A: Like, yeah. [01:34:50] Speaker D: Mike Jones has been spoken for in. [01:34:52] Speaker A: Terms of, like, the Scooby Doo. I specifically, like, keyed in on was Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated, which is sort of like the quasi modern Scooby Doo. It was very heavily serialized and had an overarching story. It wasn't like, Monster of the Week and that was it sort of story. It was that. It was around the time Cartoon Network was trying to age up with its audience. And, like, it was, like, a little more serious and darker than shows they've done before. And then they sort of punched on that, and now everything's just Teen Titans Go. And then the last one was Gravity Falls, which I feel like, what kind. We might. [01:35:33] Speaker B: It's on, like, every list. [01:35:35] Speaker A: I think we might get 84. But I had to be honest with myself. [01:35:40] Speaker B: Yeah, that's definitely. That's probably in the. The modern cartoon, right? [01:35:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Any other honorable mentions? Here at least like what you guys wanted to go through. [01:35:56] Speaker C: Yeah, go ahead, Sam. [01:35:59] Speaker D: All right, so Sealab 2021, which I mentioned when I was taking Archer. Also Frisky Dingo, which is another Adam Reed show, which is serialized unlike the C Lab, but I don't know how well it's aged in terms of like, you know, language used and stuff like that. But it, despite the second season running in 2009, was the absolute best media produced on the 2016 presidential election. So give that a look at some point. Squid Billies just. [01:36:32] Speaker A: Wow. [01:36:33] Speaker D: I really enjoyed Squid Billies. Sorry. Harvey Birdman, which I didn't pick just because you'd already taken Space Ghost and it's sort of that same ilk. Celebrity Death Match, which I don't know why I was watching that when I was nine years old. But same same with my parents. And then Animals on hbo, which is very stupid, but I loved. And the Harley Quinn HBO animated show I think is pretty good. [01:37:00] Speaker A: That Harley Quinn shows really good. I agree with that. [01:37:06] Speaker D: And yeah, that that was the. The Honorable Mansions. [01:37:12] Speaker C: I had Go. Teen Titans Go, which is a great show. [01:37:16] Speaker A: Which way? Wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on there. So there are two times. [01:37:21] Speaker C: The newer one, the newer one, I. [01:37:24] Speaker B: Had the older one. [01:37:25] Speaker A: That's crazy. [01:37:26] Speaker C: Yeah, I didn't want. I didn't watch the older one. That's why I didn't pick it. I don't know anything about it, but it's hysterical. One of the funniest scenes ever is when Robin has to race the Flash. And the Flash just, you know, you know, just destroying him in these 100 yard dashes. And then for the final scene, Robin just takes out like a police baton and cracks his knees and wins the race. And they all go running over to Robin as if he just beat Carl Lewis in 100 meter dash. So it was. That's a good one. Trying to think of the other shows that I had out there. Jimmy Neutron wouldn't have counted, right? [01:38:05] Speaker A: It would have. I would have counted it. [01:38:08] Speaker C: So I mean, it's. Yeah, there's. I mean Nickelodeon just. I think Nickelodeon dominated Cartoon Network back in the day. Fairly Odd Parents. Jimmy Neutron, Danny Phantom was great. Invader Zim is okay. Rocket Power. All pretty good shows, I think. And then, you know, some people like Avatar. I wasn't really into it, but I know that. [01:38:29] Speaker A: Oh, that's another big miss. [01:38:31] Speaker B: I thought Avatar was going to be on here. [01:38:33] Speaker A: Yeah, same. That's why I didn't put it on my book. [01:38:36] Speaker D: Like my Avatar also did not. [01:38:39] Speaker A: I really Like Doug. I think I just kept it off my board to keep it. [01:38:44] Speaker B: Doug was on my honorable mentions, too. [01:38:46] Speaker A: I kind of kept it off to keep it light. [01:38:49] Speaker C: I'm also glad we didn't pick Family Guy. [01:38:52] Speaker A: I'm surprised. [01:38:53] Speaker D: No. Seth McFarlane. Extended universe. [01:38:56] Speaker A: I want to say. [01:38:57] Speaker D: I know American Dad. No. Robot Chicken. No. Cleveland Show. [01:39:01] Speaker A: Robot chicken side. Seth McFarlane. That's Seth Korean. [01:39:04] Speaker D: No, it's. That's. Well, he's. He works for Steph McFarland. [01:39:07] Speaker A: So I want to say, like, I would have had some say about Family Guy if someone had picked American Dad. I think they would have made the correct. If someone had picked American D. I. [01:39:19] Speaker D: Was asking you about Claymation before we started. [01:39:22] Speaker A: Yeah. What's the claimation? [01:39:25] Speaker D: Celebrity Death Match. [01:39:26] Speaker A: Oh, right, right. [01:39:26] Speaker D: I thought you were going to be like, oh, he's gonna pick Robot Chicken early. And I was just like, oh, no, no, no, no. [01:39:32] Speaker A: I. I doubt. Like, I told you, like, the first. My thirst. First. First thought was moral oral. When you said stop motion. [01:39:38] Speaker D: Moral oral was on the list. But that was like, if you guys had taken all my picks in order, I needed stuff. I needed just, like, a list of cartoons to remember. [01:39:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:39:49] Speaker D: Afterwards. But I figured we weren't going to overlap completely. [01:39:52] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm surprised how much we sort of sniped each other. I feel like this is the first time that's happened. I know it's only. There was a two drafts, but this. [01:40:00] Speaker D: One felt like Chris took Bob's Burgers and you took Venture Bros. And then. [01:40:08] Speaker A: King of the Hill and Space Ghost. [01:40:10] Speaker D: I was just like, oh, and Space Ghost, too. [01:40:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:40:12] Speaker D: So I was just like, oh, yeah. [01:40:14] Speaker A: And I want to say an Animaniacs was picked from. From me. Home movies. Hey, Arnold. [01:40:20] Speaker D: Technically, great pick. [01:40:21] Speaker A: Even though I was. Yeah, Animaniacs is great. Hey, Arnold. Even though it wasn't high, but it was something I was heavily considering, but. Yeah. Joe, did you go through your honorable mentions? [01:40:35] Speaker B: No, not yet. So, as I'd already mentioned, I was between Phineas and Ferb and Regular show as my modern pick. So Phineas Ferb is on there. I also have chowder from the 2000s. [01:40:46] Speaker A: Oh, chowder's a really good one. No, no, I'm with you. [01:40:50] Speaker B: Then with Teen Titans, I was between Teen Titans and Batman beyond, but once you put Batman on there, I was like, all right, I'm not gonna win that one. So myself, I put beyond, even though I love it. [01:40:59] Speaker A: I love it, too, Donna. I'm with you. [01:41:01] Speaker B: I love Batman Beyond. Fairly odd parents. Rocco's Modern Life some more Nickelodeon stuff there. And then I was debating just for the out of respect, choosing ducktail ducktales for the greatest animated theme song of all time with with DuckTales and Huey, Dewey and Louie and Duck with Scrooge and everything. Excuse me. Talk. I said it wrong. Excuse me. Excuse me. So those are my honorable mention. I didn't really get sniped for anyone else. I think the only one that I possibly would have taken from somebody else would have been. Would have been Archer. But I'm. I'm comfortable with my list. [01:41:39] Speaker A: Yeah. As always, there will be a a poll in the show notes to vote on. Who do you think won the draft? Was it Joe with spongebob squarepants? TMNT Rugrats? Animaniacs? Tom and Jerry regular show? Was it Sam with Simpsons, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Looney Tunes, Life and Times of Tim Archer and Boondocks John with South Park, Bob's Burgers? Hey, Arnold, Futurama Home Movies and Catdog. Or me with Ed, Edd and Eddie the Animated Series, Venture Brothers, Space coast, coast to Coast, King of the Hill and Samurai Jack. I don't know if there will be other questions for this one. Maybe we just keep the poll simple to just who won the draft? [01:42:22] Speaker B: Does. Does Perez look like a guy that likes Bob's Burgers? [01:42:26] Speaker A: Well, that's not in the exit poll. Tune in next time when hopefully we'll be sort of back with regular programming in terms of a regular question answer type of episode. Who won? Way back when we did it. I believe it was a victory in the Pokemon episode. Episode. Which I believe was the last regular episode. [01:42:50] Speaker D: We'll have to check the tapes on that one. I don't even remember. But as much as I want to claim victory. [01:42:55] Speaker A: But thanks for listening. Please share it with anyone you'd want. Leave a comment, do all that good stuff. 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